[internetman55]

I've had coworkers who were obese, childless at a relatively advanced age (around 40), poor relationship with their significant other, etc. tell me about how they spend their downtime making sure their manager meets their deadlines and studying documentation, sometimes working til 2 in the morning.

I'd rather just get laid off and collect unemployment for a few months then spend another week ruining my life like that tbh

[MBCook]

I like programming and technology and reading about it and learning new things.

I’m never working 80 hours a week for someone to make them look good. No one should expect that.

[jschwartzi]

Yeah, I'd rather have people in my life and things to do that don't involve making computers do stuff for money. If that makes me a bad engineer then our standards are fucked. I was on that track for several years, but it's not worth it. And I've built some good stuff and gotten a lot done since giving that up.

[gregmac]

If a manager expects or even does anything short of actively discouraging that behavior, they are not fit to be a manager.