[nickbauman]

I think we're really in "violent agreement" here. Rigid adherence to these "things" (not necessarily methodologies) never work. The benefits of what these "things" offer, to the degree that they are understood by the practitioners, are real. But they are often (perhaps categorically) misunderstood, applied haplessly and held to claims they never made in the first place.

[gregjor]

Yes, we're in violent agreement.