[mcny]

I appreciate the spirit (I am no DF fan either!) but in the state of New Jersey if you serve alcohol at a party, you are responsible if you allow an inebriated guest to drive off and they mow down people.

If this is about gun control, there is no reason to panic. Your guns are safe.

[rothbardrand]

LOL! I wasn't talking about guns, and no, guns are not safe, every year more and more guns are banned in this country. T he idea that guns are not being banned is just a lie that is told to pretend like not banning all of them outright isn't banning them.

But my point was that just because you have responsibility for inebriated people doesn't mean that drunk driving can't happen-- we should ban bars.

OF course the thing is, most people who go to bars don't drive drunk. They have the freedom of choice.

That's what's scary to HN people... who have been brought up to worship government and believe tyranny is a good thing.