[chowchowchow]

> Nixon (most likely) wasn't complicit in the break-in, he covered it up after he learned of it.

That's quite a thin distinction and not at all exculpatory of him anyway. So if Donald Trump learned about activities by his campaign manager, son, and son in law after the fact, and attempted to cover them up, would you agree with the Watergate comparison?

The investigation is also not founded on the dossier. That is false. Did you miss how trump Jr, Flynn, etc all retweeted confirmed Russian propaganda accounts? And trump himself echoed many positions that probably came to him in a similar way (he probably didn't specifically know that his sources were Russian peppaganda originally, I'll give you that. He doesn't know much). I think it may turn out that the whole gang is just extremely cynical and stupid, but to pretend Russian efforts never overlapped with the Trump campaign is deep denial and total alternative reality.

[juliangoldsmith]

>Did you miss how trump Jr, Flynn, etc all retweeted confirmed Russian propaganda accounts? And trump himself echoed many positions that probably came to him in a similar way (he probably didn't specifically know that his sources were Russian peppaganda originally, I'll give you that. He doesn't know much)

Do you have a source on any of that? I haven't seen anything to lead me to believe that.

[chowchowchow]

Sure. Hope you find these sources acceptable. Re retweeting Russian propaganda accounts:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-campaign-staffers-pushed...

I'm not saying they knew what they were doing at the time, but the fact of the matter is: Trump Jr., Flynn, Kellyanne Conway all retweeted TEN_GOP, a Russian propaganda account, in the run up to the election varying number of times.

Re Trump himself echoing Russian Propaganda:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgkqW4cJOFQ

I imagine you will find issues with these sources, since they probably are disagreeable to you. To me, and I imagine to most unbiased readers, they are fairly clear evidence of the fact that Trump and his team did (perhaps unknowingly) spread stories that originated from Russian propaganda and disinformation efforts.

[juliangoldsmith]

I can't say I'm a fan of the Daily Beast, but the RBC link looks legit. The president retweeting an official-looking Twitter account that said something he agrees with isn't great, but it's a bit of a jump between that and collusion.

As far as him echoing propaganda, it's not impossible. He and his staff probably didn't comb through sources on everything they retweeted. Each individual claim of echoing propaganda would have to be evaluated individually.