[__sha3d2]

> And to top it all off, the biggest thing driving their valuation recently, self driving cars, appears to be in serious jeopardy, can anyone make a credible case of Uber having self driving fleet in the next 5 years?

Uber currently sends teams to major cities all over the world to build maps for self driving cars. They outfit cars in those cities with 6 figure camera rigs and enable 'passive collection', where maps are built over the course of normal rides. After that they actively collect any missing pieces and move on to the next city. They've got teams in C / D level cities (which I won't name because I don't want to ID anyone but are the international equivalents of a Baltimore MD or Miami FL).

They are not positioned as well as say Tesla IMO but they also aren't just sitting around waiting for something to happen on this front.

[Judgmentality]

And if those maps were built with illegally obtained lidar technology (or just if the judge thinks they might have been), they become fruit of the poisonous tree.

[ErikVandeWater]

I thought fruit of the poisonous tree was only relevant in evidence collection: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_of_the_poisonous_tree

[__sha3d2]

I think the responder is correct that FOTPT is not applicable here, but I wonder if there is an analogous legal concept for the product of a stolen good.

[SyneRyder]

I wonder if one of those international cities is Perth, Australia? We had a news report today that Perth is launching trials of a self-driving on-demand taxi service in April 2018:

http://www.zdnet.com/article/navya-bringing-driverless-vehic...

(I realize the trials aren't Uber, but if our government is getting ready to allow self-driving taxis, I imagine Uber would want to be prepared & ready to launch ASAP.)

[__sha3d2]

Perth was not the first AUS city ;)

[wils1245]

Parent comment is likely referring to the lawsuit against them which has recently seemed to take a turn for the worse for Uber.