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by Pyrhos 3121 days ago
>"I'm not sure why the author lumps together so many of the attributes he does, and when he does acknowledge exceptions, rather than learn from them and understand why they exist, he simply waves his hands an says Japan wasn't honor-bound enough or not in the right way or whatever else."

He makes a very clear distinction between the two - one honor system is based on (external) shame, the other is based on (internal) guilt.

>"His examples are cherry-picked and similar examples exist in the countries he holds up as exemplars. Saudi Arabia viewed cleaning as women's work, sure, just like nearly every country in Europe 100 years ago."

With the difference that things he describes still happen at large in the middle east and Africa, while Europe has moved past them long time ago.

>"He blazes by picking one bad thing that happened in a given culture, offering no further analysis other than to gawk at how much better our culture is, then moves on to an entirely different society where he happens to know one bad thing about them and repeats the process."

He offers multiple examples of why contemporary western/Japanese culture is superior in many sections, most notably "Degradation of Women".

You provided no evidence to counter the fact that the western/Japanese culture offers rights, protections and (equal) opportunities that are far superior to the ones that come with the cultures criticized in the article. You have also labeled and dismissed the author's findings as mere prejudices, despite there being mountains of evidence to the contrary.

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> With the difference that things he describes still happen at large in the middle east and Africa, while Europe has moved past them long time ago.

Well kinda depends what you define as "long time ago". Speaking for West Germany:

- 1954: Married woman are now allowed to work in public offices.

- 1958: Married woman are now allowed to work as teachers.

- 1958: The husband has no longer the right to single-handedly terminate the employment of his wife. Women still need the permission of their husband to start gainful employment.

- 1962 woman are allowed to have their own bank account.

- 1977: Woman are no longer forced to have a "house wife" marrige. They no longer need a permission by their husbands to start gainful employment.

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source: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frauenbewegung_in_Deutschland#...