[draugadrotten]

> There's no such thing as individually made profits that don't rely on a ton of collective factors.

You're confused. Depending on a factor does not mean that this factor owns what you produced. Example: To make ice-cream, you depend on cows. Cows do not own your profits.

[Fraterkes]

Bad example, because we don't acknowledge the concept of animals owning things in the first place. The above argument is a moral one; arguing that closing the wealth gap is stealing (often) ignores that most "self-made" people depend on the labor of others and the recources we all use in society.

[ncallaway]

It sort of does, though.

That's where the concept of taxes comes from. You use the services that the government provides in order to create value. As such, the government claims part of the value that you created.

Ideally, then, the government reinvests into other services that future generations will also be able to use to create value.

We can have a disagreement over how much the government should be able to claim from individuals, but I have seen very few people advocate for no taxation.