[adventured]

> in all honesty, i trust the chinese not to fuck up first contact more with a bellicose message, especially given the west's political incapacitation /fall to fascism

The Chinese have never stopped being routinely bellicose during the CPC era. They annexed Tibet through violence. They're desperate to annex a successful, independent nation - Taiwan - that wants absolutely nothing to do with that. They're willing to use violence to acquire Taiwan as needed. They're currently using bellicose military intimidation and threats to annex an extremely large amount of territory from Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei, the Philippines, Indonesia, Taiwan.

It would be the equivalent of the US routintely threatening to invade Canada to annex Vancouver + Toronto. Then annexing Baja California from Mexico. Then invading Cuba, annexing it and systematically de-Cubanizing the island culturally. Then annexing territorial waters in the Gulf, Caribbean, Pacific and Atlantic from Canada, Mexico and several other Latin American nations.

Show me another nation that has annexed more territory in the last 50 years than China. And they're obviously not done yet.

I've got some further bad news for you. A century of results indicates that Communism is just as bad or worse than Fascism. The overall current human rights position and behavior of the West is radically preferable to that of present day China.

[nasredin]

Why do people have to compare body counts of communist and fascist systems. Yes, I know many if not most people underestimate/do not know the "cost" in lives of Soviet and Chinese communism, but it just seems... wrong to compare how many more millions each one killed than the other.

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One death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic. (Sorry for butchering the quote)