[kmill]

> does not fit the Lisp philosophy... all the borrowing story comes from a basis mutability

I found this to be a confusing statement until I realized you were talking about Clojure. Common Lisp condones mutation, and a borrowing model could be helpful for optimizing memory allocations.

[arximboldi]

You are right that a lot of Lisps consider themselves more procedural than functional and I was extrapolating Clojure there. (In my defense, the Scheme community is also very functional and immutable oriented)

[masukomi]

errr.... no. every scheme i've touched / seen is perfectly happy to mutate your variables. what one doesn't?

[kmill]

"Scheme community" probably meant "Racket", but I don't know much about schemers these days to know for sure.

[hashkb]

I use set! whenever I feel the urge.