[muninn_]

Depends on your perspective. The reason these other products are “cheap” is because you’re making up for the dollar cost with your psychological well-being and being advertised to by the world’s best psychologists and cognitive scientists. So an iPhone or whatever may be “expensive” but I’d submit it’s actually cheaper when you take other factors into account.

And you can trust Apple with your data at least as much as any other provider if not more since they have a financial motivation to protect your privacy (it’s a feature).

Now I think rooting your device and hosting your own servers are a good solution - but most people, even engineers such as myself - may not want to spend time doing that or deal with security concerns from rooting your device.

[zaarn]

>So an iPhone or whatever may be “expensive” but I’d submit it’s actually cheaper when you take other factors into account.

I keep track of my expenses and so far I have paid less for the 3 Smartphones I owned than I would have paid to own any 3 iPhones with comparable age at time of the buy.

>And you can trust Apple with your data at least as much as any other provider if not more since they have a financial motivation to protect your privacy (it’s a feature).

I trust OVH more than Apple since I pay for a dedicated server every month instead of paying Apple once.

>Now I think rooting your device and hosting your own servers are a good solution - but most people, even engineers such as myself - may not want to spend time doing that or deal with security concerns from rooting your device.

Which is why I stated that this is why I don't trust Apple.