[cokeandsympathy]

Get out of here with that both sides the same bullshit. Wheeler was an industry man, but the the Obama administration fought to preserve net neutrality and Obama supported classifying ISPs as utilities.

Campaign donations and lobbying are a systematic problem, but laying the blame there and only there ignores the fact that there there are degrees of complicitness within a corrupt system, as well as degrees of the impact imposed by the corruption itself. Ultimately only one side of the aisle seems so eager to get in bed with ISPs to destroy the internet, to deny climate change in support of their fossil fuel benefactors, and to dismantle the healthcare system for the benefit of the rich.

Also, ask yourself which party supports citizen United, and which party obstructed any progress on legislative efforts to address it?

[xster]

Identity politics is just today's means of mass control as an evolution on the use of violence or religion or some such. Classic Orwell vs Huxley.

Getting the oppressed to self-drain oxygen by subdividing everyone into every which way to stop conversation about their self interest is the success the elites are seeking. The only meaningful distinction in today's america's social struggles is the class distinction between the common and the elite.

The (CNN approved) examples you're giving are right. Though there are tons of non corporate news reported 'republican' things democrats have more success doing like making Bush elite tax cuts permanent, more wars of invasion, banking deregulation, social security privatization.

> but laying the blame there and only there ignores the fact that there there are degrees of complicitness within a corrupt system, as well as degrees of the impact imposed by the corruption itself

Sounds circular. Or maybe I misunderstood what you meant. Can you rephrase?

[untog]

What a load of complete waffling nonsense. You admit that the OP was correct that things were different under the Obama administration, then say it doesn't matter because Democrats get the country involved in wars? Please.

"The only way to fix anything is to fix everything" is deeply intellectually lazy and allows you to disengage from any politics until it meets your idealised standard of what politics should be. Lets you feel great while you achieve absolutely nothing. We can all do better than that.

[xster]

Are we on the same thread? Your comments seem unrelated to the post you're responding to.

> You admit that the OP was correct that things were different under the Obama administration

What are you referring to?

> "The only way to fix anything is to fix everything"

What are you referring to? I'm saying let's fix the problem instead of being dragged into beating each other over unrelated bikeshedding while the beneficiaries of the problem continue to benefit. How did that translate into "The only way to fix anything is to fix everything"?