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by dceddia 3130 days ago
I would expand that to say, it's embarrassing/difficult to explain the JS ecosystem to experienced non-JS devs. From "why are there 132MB of packages for hello world?" to "why is there a build process at all", people outside the UI+JS world have a tough time seeing why there's so much complexity for "just the UI".

Also, side note, it's hilarious (and maybe telling) that we both referenced the "no-one got fired for buying IBM" quote...
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tootie 3130 days ago
As an old-school Java dev that's been pulled into the JS world kicking and screaming, I can say that I have a pretty good appreciation for most of the complexity around modern FE builds. NPM legitimately kinda sucked up until the last few releases and is now stabilizing. I get functional programming. I even advocated for react when it was new because it felt so natural and powerful. Redux (or really react-redux) just hasn't hit that sweet spot. That being said I've seen it be hugely successful on big projects.
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com2kid 3130 days ago
> "why is there a build process at all", people outside the UI+JS world have a tough time seeing why there's so much complexity for "just the UI".

Having come from cross-plat C++, the JS build system(s) are impressing me, at least the one around React Native.

One data point. :)

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