[lovich]

I see what you mean and it is bad. Until we have nations merge however, there's nothing we can do even when the system is working at it's theoretical perfection. Our people live in demarcated areas with separate rule sets.

When it comes to the rich vs poor in Western society we are ostensibly equal and many people are upset because reality doesn't reflect that. When it comes to the US vs say Burkino Faso, what would the correct course of action be? There's exploitative actions being taken by individuals and companies against developing nations that could stop, but then what happens? I don't think sweatshops are good but no western company is going to source goods from them if they aren't cheap as the quality isn't the same. We could try to help other nations get to the same quality of life, but many have made it explicitly clear that they don't want interference from foreign powers.

Do we act paternalistic and do what we think is right for other people which removes their autonomy? Do we avoid that and avoid exploiting them, but leave them in the dust because they have nothing we want or need if they are using regulation and price arbitrage to gain business? Do we continue as we currently do which sends money into these countries which should help them develop, but tends to be spread unevenly and causes a lot of human despair?

I can't tell what the right answer is, I can't tell if there even is a right answer

[200x0]

1. Exploitative actions taken by individuals and companies are nothing compared to the ones taken by your governments. Europe is running cheap education improvement programs here as we speak, and other such show-tell crap, but they also sign exploitative deals and house corrupt blood money of my dictator in your banking systems - giving him free-pass to do as he likes, as long as the deals are signed and people are silenced. It's realpolitik all the way down.

2. We do want interference, interference against your current interference.

3. Just let us establish our own instutitions, stop helping and making deals with criminals, stop putting on the mask of being humanitarian and then exploiting the living shit out of us.

4. Work visas - please make them available for the skilled and offer us some channel for escape. We are majorly landlocked because our passports don't even grant us a tourist visas to anywhere other than bumhole Somalia or Afghanistan.

I could go on for ages but you people have so vastly different view on these issues I don't even feel like it would be worth my time.

[euyyn]

I'm European and, like almost all, don't want my government making deals with dictators. If there's some press coverage about the things you say at least we can make enough noise that it gets the attention of politicians.

[thatguy0900]

Regarding 4, I'm curious why it's in this list with the others. It certainly makes life better for the individual, but doesn't losing all its top talent to foreign countries hurt developing countries?

[200x0]

As I said, vastly different views, to the point of being annoying.

We, as a country, are not in the business of "country-building" but rather survival and that of avoiding pain. Our government doesn't need talented individuals - they just need brainwashed populace and stability for their power. Thinkers are direct infraction to the system and usually are not tolareted.

Also, what do you expect disarray of talented individuals with no power to concentrate power to do alone in a society that doesn't recognize nor like them?

[fnovd]

So you solution (highlighted in point 4) is to move to a Western country and become part of the problem?

[cardiffspaceman]

I think the "casual game theory" of (4) is, if you want to improve those places, let them have work visas. There are people in certain countries who can be empowered through work visas to pursue their calling (pastors in churches, teaching mathematics in universities, sizing contact lenses of the rich and idle or whatever). Those who choose not to apply for the visas will maybe try something at home, knowing they can get that work visa if what they try doesn't work. And maybe in the trying they will find a different calling than they thought. In succeeding at the things they try at home they might lower the need for work visas.