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by Barrin92 3131 days ago
>but on the other hand its essentially telling parents that the government knows more about what your kids should and shouldn't wear than you do.

Here in Germany children are not just property of their parents, they are citizens in and of themselves. In this case it is the state's study to uphold their rights, which their parents are apparently not aware of or violating.

The argument that parents are somehow wise elders who know what the best thing is for their children has very little pull here.

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So instead you substitute "The state is somehow a wise elder who knows what the best thing is for its child citizens"?

Clearly, both the parents and the state have an interest in ensuring the health and safety of children, and when the parents fail in that responsibility, there comes a time when the state must step in.

But let's not kid ourselves. Both parents and the state can make bad choices on behalf of children.

>there comes a time when the state must step in.But let's not kid ourselves. Both parents and the state can make bad choices on behalf of children.

No disagreement here. But I think especially in this case (parents neglecting the privacy of a child) is only going to become more relevant.

There are plenty of parents already who put the entire lives of their children on the internet, without the children having any say or ability to realise how exposed they are. If the German state steps in here occasionally to remind parents that the privacy of their children, and their right to their own information ought to be respected I do not consider this a bad idea.

It's admittedly a very new situation that will require new frameworks.

The basic assumption that Barrin92 is making is that the German government is benevolent and always puts the interests of its citizens first.
The basic assumption that jjawssd is making is that government is never benevolent and always puts its own interest before that of citizens, regardless of the fact that government usually is made up of said citizens.

It's really scary how much distrust some people have towards representative democracies/republics and instead think going back to some kind of de-facto anarchy where the strong rule over the weak, is somehow the "better" solution that we've never even tried before.

We have plenty of human history not involving "government", guess what it did look like? Much worse.