[te_chris]

It's not propaganda if he's actually THAT bad. I'm being deadly serious. He is not a normal candidate and claiming that it's biased because there are lots of true stories about a bad person is a feature of our media, not a bug!

It says more about Trump's fans that they're willing to overlook his egregious failings and attack and undermine quasi-impartial institutions just to point score than it does about bias.

[tomp]

So... what were the actually bad things that actually happened because of Trump (i.e. because of something he did)? In my view, much like with Brexit, the fearmongering is way exaggerated compared to reality.

[FrozenTuna]

Assuming you've been paying exactly zero attention to anything going on, here's a few major things that he is responsible for:

Travel ban targeting Islamic countries

Withdrawal of Paris Agreement

Fired head of FBI when Comey wouldn't declare personal loyalty

Issued a directive to the department of health agencies "waive, defer, grant exemptions from, or delay" portions of the ACA

Soon to be pretty closely tied to:

Tax bill making graduate school significantly more expensive

FCC votes to kill net neutrality next month

These are, in my opinion, the worst offenses. There are many other things that he is either responsible for or closely related to. A simple google search yields list after list of things he's done both large and small.

[fhood]

I think the major fear is the precedent he sets for divisive politics in the future. He also may cause the US to loose ground to China as far as foreign influence goes, but the first point is what worries me.

[tomp]

I think the politics were divisive before. In fact, I'd claim that Trump's election is the result of divisive politics.

[beepboopbeep]

The purposeful gutting/disorganization of major federal agencies and operations, the discrediting of the white house's statements, the undermining of existing federal law (see: explicitly sabotaging the ACA), then there's, of course, aiding and abetting enemies in order to win an election.

[ThomPete]

What exactly is it you mean these things show? Sounds mostly like you are complaining about his form than anything he has actually done.

Is it worse than Bush administration who started a war?

[beepboopbeep]

I just don't know how else to tell you that these things are all very bad. They, to me, should appear bad at face value. We clearly differ in the perception of the world at a fundamental level.

[ThomPete]

Even if they are bad are they as bad as Bush starting a war?

It's claimed that somehow Trump is the worst of them all. From what you have stated here do you personally think they are worse things than Bush starting a war?

[bllguo]

I find it really hard to believe you're arguing in good faith. What is the purpose of a comparison to Bush..? Even if the answer is that Bush was worse, it does not take away at all from how terrible Trump has been. And we're comparing 8 yrs of Bush to not even 1 from Trump, here.

Anyway - yes, I do think that conspiring with hostile foreign entities to manipulate voters and undermine American democracy is worse.

[beepboopbeep]

While I have an opinion for your question, you seem oddly driven to change topics. So I'll kindly decline to answer.

[tomp]

So... typical politics or unproven allegations. Got it. Not like... starting wars (like 4 previous presidents have done) (although he's still got time, I'll give you that).

[beepboopbeep]

I know 2 data points do not make a pattern, but it's really weird that both replies to my comment are in a similar vein from usernames that appear to be variants of "Tom P"

[pjc50]

Unconstitutional religious discrimination by executive order: https://theintercept.com/2017/10/21/donald-trump-muslim-ban-...

Simple failure to do the job: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics...

[ThomPete]

And yet isn't all you have to show for that his tweets.?

Which of his actions shows that he is that bad.

You don't have to be a Trump supporter to see that you are proving the parents' point.

[te_chris]

I don't understand how you can even argue that, unless you're trolling?

[bluGill]

Your reply says a lot about you.

[masterrex]

No, it's baseless propaganda and character defamation cranked to 11.

Your hypocritical hivemind tends to overlook that your queen bee accepted tens of millions from the KSA/Qatar in campaign contributions with the knowledge that, in her OWN words, they provide clandestine and logistic support to ISIL. It's OK to be white, it's OK to be American, and it's OK to love your country.

[sctb]

We ban accounts that abuse Hacker News by posting only political or ideological comments. This isn't a place to wage such wars.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html