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by spaceribs
3142 days ago
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I just want to be clear that society at large has instituted regulations like "You need to be 21 to drink" and "You cannot drink in a public park", but there are no regulations on how much you are allowed to drink, that's where personal responsibility to social norms comes into play. So you're saying it's ok for the government to manipulate you, but not a company, because their goal isn't a vague idea of societal good, it's to make more money? I find it much easier to understand why a company does X, rather than why the age for drinking is set at 21. I take that understanding with me every time I sign up for any kind of service. If anything should come out of any of this, it's that personal/private information should be fully controlled by individuals in the same way health information is handled. It shouldn't be so easy to generate huge databases of people and claim ownership over them, and it definitely shouldn't be so easy to use those social ties to create an addiction. |
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Counterexample: drink-driving blood alcohol limit.
> So you're saying it's ok for the government to manipulate you, but not a company, because their goal isn't a vague idea of societal good, it's to make more money?
In the right area, sort of (manipulation generally bad but a few things can override the badness) but I would say that governments are (in theory) democratically accountable, whereas business are legally and financially accountable. Yes, people do vote for dumb laws, but in principle that can be undone by another vote, businesses only get in trouble with their shareholders if the government doesn’t limit their behaviour.
While I agree with the point that it would be better if it wasn’t “so easy to generate huge databases of people and claim ownership over them, and it definitely shouldn't be so easy to use those social ties to create an addiction“, I don’t have any long term solutions. At some point the collective footprint of someone’s public statements on the internet is such a database, albeit in the informal sense of the word and spread over dozens of unconnected businesses, and demonstrating that the information has been used to cause addiction is more difficult than demonstrating tax avoidance.