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by thinkMOAR 3135 days ago
heh i hope you are kidding :) of course they log.. edit perhaps not YOUR ip address, but enough to identify users. AS number + extra data is almost as good as IP.

"When an entity or an individual is using the Quad9 infrastructure, their IP address is not logged in our system. We, however, log the geo-location of the system (city, state, country) and use this information for malicious campaign and actor analysis, as well as a component of the data we provide our threat intelligence partners. "

Not logged in 'our' system, reads to me, it is still logged somewhere. And the 'data we provide our threat intelligence partners', seems a little too vague for my likings.

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So a quick explanation of what we do. (Its on the website as well, sorry if my response latency is high)

We do for a short period of time have the ip address in memory, it is very quickly used to do a geo location look up, that data (the geo location data) then essentially replaces the src ip in the data structure that is used in our logs and telemetry. We can of course as outlined in that page during times of ddos or troubleshooting enable a higher level set (thing router/infrastructure) set of logging that could provide that data to the infrastructure operator (pch). When that occurs that data is not mixed with the “daily operational data” that is generated by the normal functioning of the system. This is/was the best balance we could come up with to maintain privacy and ability to mitigate/resolve technical issues with infrastructure and the operation of what we do with telemetry around blocks in the system.

So quick recap, even when things go sideways and we need to mitigate a ddos or trouble shoot weird routing/anycast/other issues and enable the capture of ip/asn’s that data is generated/processed/used seleratley than the telemtry data we store, generate, and share. (On the sharing side we only share telemetery with the to vendors who gave us data to produce those blocks, so its segmented as well).

And i think thats perfectly normal. People basically demanding free public services and the operator of that service can't log anything.. thats what i have problems with :)