[volak]

Without NN there would be a ton more providers to choose from because we'd be able to compete on more than price.

Comcast's of the world can oversell their lines by 4x what we can because they can simply get the word out to low-traffic users better than we can. Thats 4x the revenue smaller ISPs just don't get directly because of NN.

[annabellish]

NN is explicitly there to _stop_ you from competing on more than price, because introducing free market capitalism to basic infrastructure is a horrifying idea. Should utility companies be able to compete on more than price? Should roads be able to compete on more than price?

Being able to do so is great for the company in charge of the utility, but literally everybody else immediately loses hard.

[kortex]

This would work if ISPs with the pipes were forced to peer with other providers. Just like people have (some) choice to get their power from green generation, but it uses the same grid lines.

There's nothing stopping them from doing this now, but the fact of the matter is ISPs don't want competition.

[0xfeba]

Please explain how NN is keeping competition down. Also consider that we haven't had 'official' common carrier NN until last year. So where was all the competition then since NN was not a barrier?

> Comcast's of the world can oversell their lines by 4x what we can because they can simply get the word out to low-traffic users better than we can.

So NN prevents you from getting the word out? Huh?

[s73ver_]

"Without NN there would be a ton more providers to choose from because we'd be able to compete on more than price."

That is an utter baldfaced lie. NN is not what is keeping competition down, not even close.

If you want sympathy and understanding for your position, it helps if you be honest with the rest of us.