[hasenj]

The other day I was listening to a clip from Jordan Peterson, and he said something that I found a bit surprising/shocking, but this articles seems to confirm it: people on the left who claim to side with the poor don't actually care about the poor, they just hate the rich.

This article is basically just hating on the rich people.

I think it's rather easy to understand what this author is puzzled by: people want to keep their money. If you've earned your money and you want to keep it, I can empathize with you. If you think you deserve to take other people's money, I can't empathize with you.

[pjc50]

A little case study from Twitter today: https://twitter.com/imajsaclaimant/status/930515080130826240

Do you "empathize" with the person referred to as "PH" there? Why not?

[hasenj]

For every guy who legitimately could use some temporary help until he gets back on his feet, there are hundreds of free loaders.

If you think about it actually more reason to hate on free loaders. They cause tragedies like this.

[DanBC]

Clearly not in the UK. For every freeloader there are hundreds who need a bit of temporary support.

We know this from the number of people who are working and claiming benefit. (I think these now outnumber people not working and claiming benefit).

[hasenj]

> We know this from the number of people who are working and claiming benefit.

For how long do they claim benefits?

This could actually be a bad sign.

[DanBC]

It's a bad thing, because it shows the minimum wage isn't enough and zero-hours contracts aren't keeping people out of poverty.

But people in work who do over sixteen hours per week and who are claiming eg working family tax credits are not free-loading.

This is one of the mechanisms that's designed to get people back into work. There's a benefit cap in place, and that cap is removed if you work more than 16 hours per week.