[matejn]

I believe "x install your framework" is the job of a package manager, not a build tool.

I don't see how your argument holds ground. If everyone used make, tooling would support it, and you wouldn't need to learn the "quirks and tricks" of a dozen other systems.

The problem with make is that it's not portable, since it needs to call system specific binaries, like rm(1) vs del. There's also the BSD vs GNU divide.

Other than that, a newfangled tool like gulp doesn't even have a clean one liner for copying one file to a different location with a different name. It's absurd.

[dahauns]

>gulp doesn't even have a clean one liner for copying one file to a different location with a different name

??

    gulp.src("srcfile")
    .pipe(rename("destfile"))
    .pipe(gulp.dest("destloc"));

What's the problem?

[matejn]

How is that a one liner?

Compare to: cp srcfile destloc/destfile

Edit: In addition, the above gulp command reports success even if the file doesn't exist. If you want to check that, you need to import another library and expand the command with another pipe.

[flukus]

Well it could be a one liner, but you're not wrong, the Unix tools are way more terse and we'll known than the random $language versions of make. A few of the .net ones (Nant, msbuild, psake) are ridiculously complicated to do something like sed for instance.