[Tiktaalik]

Harsh truths here.

>... As long as 1) wealthy consumers in western nations but also China are eager to seek indulgence by way of green-washing and, 2) are in search of a Steve Jobs replacement persona onto which they can project their hopes for a gleaming future and, 3) are disillusioned with the establishment and its leaders, the company will likely succeed to raise cash again.

> The Tesla narrative is based on an illusion, a contradictio in adjecto - the promise that humankind can shop and consume itself into a sustainable future. However, even a million Teslas on the world’s roads will not impact the environment for better or worse. It is a systemic issue. ...Sustainability and promoting the purchase of raw-material consuming heavyweight products are mutually exclusive.

[jacob019]

I don't want a Tesla because they're green. I want one because they're wicked fast, because they provide full torque from a dead stop. Because I hate the gas station. Because the interior is both luxurious and minimalist. I want one so much, and I could care less about the environmental impact. Long term, electric cars will fully replace the ICE because they're simpler, faster, and cheaper.

[dogma1138]

They aren’t that fast they have good acceleration but you’ll top out very quickly and your car will throttle down because your battery pack overheats.

The breaks, suspension and handling is also poor.

Want a fast car? A Maclaren 650 Spider can be bought for the same price or so a a new Tesla 100D its much faster and much more fun to drive.

The ludicrous mode in a Tesla is a gimmick nothing more nothing less.

And if you think that the Model S is luxurious then you need to step into a mid range BMW or a Benz, Tesla looks good but feels very cheap.

So far if you want luxury and a low impact then the plug-in hybrids form BMW are the way to go you get about 30 miles on battery which is more or less within the commute range of many people, a proper luxury as far as the finish goes and at less than half the price of the Model S.

I can buy a new BMW 330e today for less than £35,000 a Tesla would start at about double that.

[skybrian]

This proves too much. Even assuming for the moment that Tesla did fail, there's no reason other auto manufacturers won't keep producing electric cars and be successful at it. Any "lessons learned" would have to do with Telsa alone (with respect to their finances).

[thisisit]

>> 2) are in search of a Steve Jobs replacement persona onto which they can project their hopes for a gleaming future

Sometimes I wonder was Steve Jobs was a replacement persona for someone before him or was it like a new phenomena?

[dogma1138]

Probably, you can go all back to Edison and likely even to some cave in France for the launch even of the iSling..::