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by sametmax 3147 days ago
I used that. I took me a huge time just to understand what all the tooling was doing, how to integrate it in my current stack and how it was going to affect my current project.

My pet peeve with react is that I can't just code. I have to stop every 10 steps and reflect on the tool I use, instead of the problem I'm trying to solve.
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computerex 3146 days ago
I have no idea what you are talking about. React doesn't require any tooling. Drop a reference to React from some cdn in your HTML file and you are good to go. People confuse the myriad of libraries and tools complementary to React for React. You don't need create react app for Hello world.

Create React App gives you a zero configuration way to not only write hello world, but also bootstrap a non-trivial production ready application. In the company I work for, we were previously using JSPM/SystemJS/Gulp. We replaced all of that with create-react-app. It allows you to very easily bootstrap existing applications on top of it: http://fredrik.anderzon.se/2016/12/04/adding-create-react-ap...

And if you want full control of your project, you can "eject" and CRA will generate the webpack configuration file being used so that you can tweak to your heart's content.

I use React daily, and the whole experience has been extremely pleasant.

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kuschku 3146 days ago
The point is about not using external builds of react, but trying to understand what every piece does.

That means you want to be able to understand it well enough to write the webpack required for a react pack from memory.

And with react, that's years of learning.

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luord 3146 days ago
> My pet peeve with react is that I can't just code. I have to stop every 10 steps and reflect on the tool I use, instead of the problem I'm trying to solve.

Thank you! Every time I've tried react (and enough attempts were made to finally decide it was just not for me), there was always something in the back of my mind that I didn't like and I just couldn't put it to words. You just described what it was.

And, if one forgoes tooling, then the situation is like the one you described in your previous comment: an afternoon just to get a "Hello world".

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