[WoodenChair]

So, you chose the red herrings of the worst possible ISPs. There are great commercial ISPs too. What's more important is competition, which again is limited by government (government decides who gets access to build-out lines).

I agree, federal government does have the resources to spy, and uses them very effectively. Why make it that much easier for our local governments to do that as well.

[15charlimit]

> There are great commercial ISPs too.

Sure, if you're lucky enough to live in an area with "actual" competition, which is the crux of the entire issue.

The vast, vast majority of us are stuck with 1 or 2 (if we're lucky) options, both relatively shitty, with one being markedly inferior, and both absurdly overpriced for the connection you get.

[sliverstorm]

What's more important is competition

Right, and that's a key ingredient that is missing in Fort Collins. Two main providers, who have been operating in typical duopoly fashion. I.e. you get one or the other, not both, and even if you can get both, the other is no better.

[Clubber]

>is limited by government (government decides who gets access to build-out lines).

The local municipalities should build out the lines on the taxpayer dime, then lease them to the IPS's and get an ROI. Contract out maintenance.

[s73ver_]

You're gonna have to prove that claim, that this makes it easier for governments to spy on people.