[Balgair]

SM is loud and very touristy. Buskers are allowed amps for their guitars and I can't count the number of languages spoken. It's more of an airport terminal than anything approaching 'local'. God have mercy on you at the pier. I'd go Culver City, as a better 'local' kinda thing, but even then you need to get up to SB to really stand a chance of a quiet coffee on the street.

> Parking is wack though.

Literally all of LA is like this. Pro-tip, in SM, park at the library. Cheaper and easier to get in/out.

[unabst]

Even Beverly Hills has great parking. The major bottleneck downtown is parking right now and has been for a while. SM moved fast to build multiple parking structures... and that's where all the foot traffic comes from. Not sure why DTLA is so nonchalant about this. Don't see any construction whatsoever.

[tomjakubowski]

You don’t see any construction in DTLA? Are we both living in 2017?

It seems like every other day a new 40+ story mixed-use tower, with requisite parking structure, is breaking ground around here.

The thing that baffled me about downtown’s parking situation was how so many otherwise undeveloped parking lots managed to stick around given the opportunity cost of land downtown. That was until I realized a production crew can’t set up base camp in a parking garage.

[unabst]

Sorry, of parking structures is what I meant. I work in DTLA.

I am always marveled when I go to SM. Huge modern parking structures on every block.

[Spooky23]

Parking lots are speculators.

[wutbrodo]

> Not sure why DTLA is so nonchalant about this. Don't see any construction whatsoever.

Presumably because LA finally managed to make a section of the city livable and they don't want to hasten its demise. Parking has pretty massive costs for quality of life and the livability of a city.

LA is just in a weird transition point right now, where even a furious pace of transit building isn't going to remake the car-centric infrastructure overnight.

[Gargoyle]

Downtown LA has a fantastic parking situation compared to almost any other major city. Tons and tons of cheap parking.

Parking is not DTLA's problem.

[unabst]

Sure, compared to Tokyo and Manhattan. But everyone commutes using the train there.

DTLA is different. It is still within the driving circuit, and all other LA shopping destinations have decent free or cheap parking.

Paying 11 dollars just to park might be okay for work, but not okay if you're just looking to walk around or shop.

That's why BH and SM and all major malls have free or cheap parking. DTLA can't compete with these destinations in retail, until they fix this.

Joe's parking is not going to cut it.