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by RAB1138 3145 days ago
We love that one! Required reading.

His work on why you, me, everyone on this thread, and every species that's part of the subphylum Vertebrata shaped the course of thinking from contemporary Machine Learning techniques like Q-Learning to us!

Not evil, have done our reading though ;)

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And You guys named your system Skinner. (which is very on the nose, and also very funny now)

I think I truly get what you are doing, but I definitely think you are going to have to very seriously explain to people here WHAT the problem is and how you are going to help.

So some straight up advice -

1) People here need to understand with examples from your research, on just how Bad the effect of un-noticed conditioning can be.

2) Highlight your mission statement, and very strongly defend the part where your tools do good. Preferably with illustrations.

If you want to take on anti-hero, branding, remember that it only works if people are intimately familiar with the inner workings of his mind and thus his motivations.

As such you may want to put this very prominently out there -

>We watched and read too much scifi growing up. And for every 1 dystopia movie, there's 3 better utopia novels. So now we can't get 2 determinately optimistic ideas out of our head: (1) the future is going to be awesome (and awesome for everyone: not just white bearded educated heteronormative californian male technocrats: that would suck). (2) The relationship between humans and our machines must be one of mutual thriving and improvement. The little magical slabs of glass that live in our pockets and proliferate across the globe are tools for human thriving. So we built Dopamine to help that future became manifest.

>Technology is becoming more (addictive / persuasive / coercive) every day and there isn't much we can do to reverse it. And it sucks that the technologies that are becoming persuasive the fastest aren't necessarily ones that are great for human thriving. You deserve a better world than one in which the most persuasive technologies demand from you your eyeball hours and brand loyalty in exchange for cat videos. That's dystopic.

people will also want to know that its not marketing speak. SO you will need to show that you take pains to actually move us to the world we need to go to.

No offense, but I do not believe you.

I can't, on something like this. Talk is cheap.

What on the evil part? Or that we make the whole team read Skinner? It's a thin book.
...really?

Welp, there's another one on the 'never touch with a 10-foot pole' pile. Yikes, your promotional account sounds like a grinning glassy-eyed sociopath. Serious goosebumps.

A good sociopath would have been charming.

I think they’re very aware of the problems and they would rather be in the good side of the issue.

I think he just doesn’t know how to convert this or talk about it in a forum setting well.