[majormajor]

Even established companies not in the obviously-sleazy Tata/Infosys abuse buckets play games here. "Write up job description consisting of specialty skills your H1B candidate already has, but that you don't need in your company in that role, then use them as a generic webdev" type stuff.

[addicted]

Yeah because wanting someone who has worked in your company for 3-5 years and has an in depth knowledge of the job and the internal Dynamics of the company is obviously the exact equivalent of someone who has experience in the 3-4 specific headline technologies whether they are good or not at that is a terrible idea.

The alternative of an H1B is not an American. It's off shoring the entire project to a team that doesn't live in the US in the first place.

[mywittyname]

This is correct. I've been involved in these sorts of postings, and it was absolutely gamed. But for good reason: we already had the perfect person in the role and wanted to keep him.

Imagine if there was a law that required companies to post job openings for every position in the company, regardless of whether or not that position was already filled. As you can imagine, they would likely make the job requirements exceedingly specific for the roles filled by people they really like.

You don't even need to imagine, just go look at government or non-profit job postings. It's often the case that they similar ridiculous policies for promotions, where they already have a person they want to promote, but they need to open it up to public applicants first.

[majormajor]

I don't disagree with this, but I think it indicates that the real problem lives earlier in the pipeline. Maybe we're having the wrong discussions?

[friedButter]

>The alternative of an H1B is not an American. It's off shoring the entire project to a team that doesn't live in the US in the first place.

This is fairly obvious, but do Americans not realize this? Or are they consciously saying that its better for high paying jobs to move out of US than for foreigners to work at those jobs in US?

[mobilefriendly]

>The alternative of an H1B is not an American. It's off shoring the entire project to a team that doesn't live in the US in the first place.

Nope, the alternative is off shoring the project to places like Ohio and Montana.

[urazen]

Nope, offshorinng to non-US companies is the most preferred alternative in the real world. Just look at the fact. Offshorinng has been existing for a long time. Building dev center in Ohio and Montana is much more difficult and costly.

[sheepmullet]

No. They already offshore as much as they can get away with.

Being unable to import cheap labor from overseas would be a huge loss to these chop shops and allow other local companies to compete with local staff.

[vostok]

I recently saw a job advertisement for a front office role at a major bank that literally included the person's name.

[bsimpson]

They'd already printed up name placards for Sam Fakename, so it was really important that they could reuse those for the next candidate.

[vostok]

They didn't list the name as a requirement, but they said Firstname will be working on X, Y, and Z.

I assume the person writing the advertisement just forgot that they're technically looking for a local candidate.

[thr0w__4w4y]

I 100% believe you, but just for entertainment value, assuming the posting was public and recent -- any chance you have a link to the posting that you can share with us? I need a good laugh today.