[notheguyouthink]

> So you are saying you don't have any use for the idea of morality.

To a degree I agree with this statement though. Morality in politics and corporations seems to be purely a tool for those without morality. That is to say, "X would never do that, why do we need laws for it?"

As far as I'm concerned, morality is for a person, unique and without power. If any (meaningful, I guess) power is obtained, such as in companies and politicians, checks and balances need to be in place to prevent abuse, corruption, etc.

We seriously need vast and in depth auditing in politics, because morality is long failed the world.

[devdad]

The checks and balances are constructed from ideas about ethics. You can not have one without the other.

[notheguyouthink]

Of course - but why would we trust politicians to have the ethics/morality to construct their own checks and balances?

My point is that politicians cannot be relied upon to have morality. Checks and balances are needed to ensure even those without morals adhere to some sane laws.