[philjohn]

This is actually a smart move for AMD, and here's why.

These chips from Intel are going to be the super-high top end mobile chips in laptops that cost serious money, and have a rumoured 45w TDP.

Raven Ridge on the other hand is a traditional AMD APU, albeit with a decent CPU component - it's not going after the same market segment at all, it's going after the segment where you want to maybe do some light e-sports gaming.

This way, AMD gets both bites of the cherry - they get to sell their APUs with Zen, and they also get to target the super top end.

[hotmail]

Also smart move for Intel. Frees them up to concentrate on CPU functionality and clean offloading to accelerators. This IMHO is the key, without something better than CAPI, CCIX, NVlink, then these are just accelerators. Putting them in as actual compute devices on same level as the CPU will take some actual guts and innovation.