[Waterluvian]

JS needs a standard library that ships in all the browsers. "There, you're all using the same tools. They're not perfect for any of you but they're good enough for all of you."

I noticed recently that module support is now in chrome. When module support lands for all the browsers, it's going to be a huge step toward getting rid of a lot of build complexity.

I've been writing vanillajs toys the past month and wow have things improved greatly in the last four years.

[thelarkinn]

Native modules are still pretty slow. So much that we as an oss org are working with browsers to help them find ways to make them faster. Although native modules will be nice, we still believe that bundlers are still needed to ship the fastest most optimized code