[bsder]

> It's all bullshit and I can't stand it anymore...

For those of us in Southern California, even if electric cars aren't "carbon neutral", they are still a win for two reasons.

1) Electric cars that are stopped don't burn energy. Now, with the new engines that can turn themselves off and on quickly, that's becoming less of an issue, but there is still some amount of idling in any combustion engine.

2) The pollution involved with electric cars is concentrated, industrial point-source. This is FAR easier to mitigate than the diffuse, individual pollution sources represented by combustion cars.

[heypete]

Plus the fact that as the source of electricity to the grid changes, so too does the cleanliness of all the vehicles.

Sure, things today may be a wash in terms of overall emissions in many areas, but as time goes on and dirty power plants are shut down and cleaner sources brought online, the emissions due to EVs increases.

I'm seriously evaluating buying an electric car like the Bolt (though the cheap interior is a bit of a turn-off for a longer commute) or the Ioniq EV (much nicer, though with less range) since many employers are offering EV charging at work. That'd make my out-of-pocket operating costs basically negligible (other than occasional air filter and tire rotations), which is nice.

I'd love to see the tax credit turned into a point-of-sale reduction in price so more people can benefit, rather than just those with a >$7500 tax bill.