[dogruck]

Yes, those are cars for the wealthy. Most people cannot even afford a car. If they can, they’re probably not buying a new car. And, if they do buy a new car, they’re probably looking to spend close to $20,000.

[smileysteve]

> If they can, they’re probably not buying a new car.

While it's a subsidy; the benefits don't stop at the first purchase. As long as the subsidy continues, prices for used EVs will stay below prices of new EVs.

[dogruck]

You make a great point.

I'd like to learn more about that dynamic of used car pricing. Do you have any pointers?

Here are some thoughts I have which might introduce subtleties:

* At some price level, there is a floor on "good condition used car that will safely take you from A to B",

* A used EV also price-competes with all used cars, and perhaps even with new non-EVs.

[akhilcacharya]

My parents just spent a little over $20k on a Leaf. Not exactly a Bentley.

[dogruck]

Congratulations, your parents are relatively wealthy.

And, did they buy a new one? MSRP is $30,680: https://www.nissanusa.com/electric-cars/leaf/versions-specs/...

[akhilcacharya]

New, yes, $30k no. electric utility provided a significant deal. In some states you can apparently get the 2016 model for $15k out the door now.

[dogruck]

A 2016 model year car, at the end of 2017, is not “new”. Also, I don’t know what specific electric utility subsidy you’re referring to, but that doesn’t help your argument, in this thread about subsidies, IMO.

What was the out-the-door price for your parent’s 2017 Leaf?