[ringaroundthetx]

yeah, so when you pay with cryptocurrency there is no real information about you, now this is just the first part, and if we stopped there, you would be correct. But many sites use the address data necessary for credit card transactions and append that to your user profile, but sites that accept cryptocurrency do not because it is not necessary to complete payment or distinguish users.

so secondly the bitcoin transaction would have been executed by someone else, from a mixer. The mixer was instructed by my transaction to it from an opaque blockchain, as explained earlier. Your rebuttal implies you have never seen the differentiating features of Monero. It is a public blockchain, but transactions are not linked.

[sandworm101]

The transactions are not overtly linked but some simple detective work can make connections. Seeing the same number of bitcoins exiting one account and, within reasonable time, appearing in another is suggestive. See that happen many times, such as some sort of subscription to a service, and you can put 2 and 2 together.

Say they shut down an illegal website that subscribers paid 25$ for every month. If they see that your account paid out 25$/month, but stopped doing so when the website shut, then that's strong enough evidence for a warrant regardless of the exact path of transactions. That can be done via the blockchain far more easily than trying to gain access to bank records.

[ringaroundthetx]

> Seeing the same number of bitcoins exiting one account and, within reasonable time, appearing in another is suggestive.

Will you just try using Monero before you say another word?

First, your assumption relies on having a nexus currency of Bitcoin to begin with, when Monero could easily be the base currency someone maintains a balance in. Monero has USD markets and has many default countermeasures towards linkability.

Second, your assumption relies on just not seeming to know how Monero works.

Third, I want to clarify that I'd be open to rebuttals if they actually acknowledged technology thats been around since 2014, but you are making rebuttals about rudimentary bitcoin mixers from 2012 when thats not even what we are talking about.