[y0y]

> They don't actually compete with each other, I don't even understand the comparison. Kubernetes uses docker.

Kubernetes is scheduling and orchestration. It does compete with Docker, the company - it's a direct competitor of Swarm.

Docker, the container technology, is the de facto standard container at this time. That may not always be the case. Kubernetes is not Docker-specific, thus his mentioning of the open container initiative.

They are absolutely competitors.