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by mobitar 3159 days ago
https://standardnotes.org

I either use an "ideas" tag in Standard Notes, or have 1 pinned note called "Ideas" or "Journal" that I constantly make updates to.

This is an app I've been building for over a year now. Benefits are encryption + cross-platform sync.

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Looks interesting, but I have some off-topic feedback. I really like that sort of website style, but after 5 minutes looking around I found your site quite confusing.

It wasn't initially apparent that there seems to be both a free and (subscription?) paid version, which had me very confused while reading the 'longevity' page as to how a SaaS is going to last forever. The 'Always Free' box isn't very clear that it describes a different product version (no download button, not clearly a standalone feature list) and the text on the far left is basically background noise.

Hmm, I see. Not sure if I'm completely following your understanding though. There is only 1 product version. The paid add-on is a sort of app store that allows you to install extensions on top of the core experience. If you get a chance, please email me at mo@standardnotes.org to explain a bit more. Would be super helpful.
Got it, my 2nd read was that 'Always Free' and 'Extended' were 2 product versions. The only super clear call to action I saw was 'subscribe', the only mention of it being free is buried in a paragraph that's well below the fold. The only mention of it being open source is in the footer.

The download buttons somewhat imply it being free, but it's relatively common for crippled/time-limited versions to be offered like that.

Basically - I think you could benefit from making it more obvious that it's free (and open source), with optional extra paid stuff. Probably a clearer link to the online version as well.

I use standard notes, but I'll be honest, I'm not chuffed about the whole "hosted" plugins system.

Maybe I'm completely off-base, but while SN only ever see the encrypted blobs, editors often (almost always) require me to send over my plain-text to a server which then sends it back to me. That's not really end-to-end... what's the motivation behind the hosted plugins, and not downloading signed binaries/code that operate through a permissions-based API?

An important goal we have is to make sure that the web app and desktop app are 1:1, so that any way you depend on using the app can be accessed any time using a browser. This requires a different, hosted architecture. I don't think this will be its final form however.

In the future, I could imagine for example a desktop app that runs all of the extensions locally (but would mean no web access). But the hosted architecture is not bad. The only remote connection made is when the script is first downloaded. After that, the note editing all happens locally in-frame, and the end-to-end architecture remains intact. The question really becomes, can you trust the script that's initially loaded? This will be up to the user. The editor feature is a layer of convenience that comes at a minor cost of potential privacy, but is no more untrustworthy than the SN web app you load in your browser (assuming the editor is coming from our servers and not some random link).

> Benefits are encryption + cross-platform sync.

Great features but I find the pricing a bit too high (for a consumer product).

Does it have vim bindings?

Yes, you can check out the Vim editor: https://standardnotes.org/extensions/vim-editor