[Noos]

Jackie isn't even that good. it's annoying because no one really seriously watches enough kung fu films to realize he isn't.

For example, Beardy (Leung Kar Yan) oozes charisma just by breathing, and does fights like these:

https://youtu.be/ViowFzbOxfU

...without any formal kung-fu training! He's just a gifted physical mimic.

Gordon Liu is another hugely influential actor who more or less is what people think of when they think of shaolin kung fu, and he starred in many of the most iconic films of that genre, like the 36th chamber of shaolin. Then you have the five venoms, etc. If you actually went through a collection of the best films, like the old Dragon Dynasty DVDs, you'd be shocked to see how little Chan is in them.

[eih]

Thanks for the recommendations, I will definitely check them. I was into kung-fu films back in VHS days but most of the time you couldn't see names on the cover, just one exaggerated film title translation. There were great performances but it is really hard to find them after all these years.