[dragonwriter]

> Can you fault him for that?

Yes; while the attitude is extremely common, and not just when it comes to nations, it's an attitude that serves as a powerful enabler of evil in every context in which it is found, whether national, family, corporate, partisan, religious, or otherwise, and it should emphatically be condemned every time it rears its ugly head.

> Perhaps it is the American standard that is wrong.

Americans are no less prone to this than others.

[crush-n-spread]

You claim that having solidarity with your nation, family, corporation, etc. is an enabler of evil. But what you see as evil probably looks a lot like dominance, control and strength to the rest of the world.

Ultimately, national power is extremely valuable on the global stage. Every single industrial nation on Earth has tens of thousands of business leaders and decision makers working to usurp that power from other nations as their own; this must be known and acknowledged! Whether it be exploitative trade agreements or owning parts of a neighbouring country's industry, to have control and dominance over other nations and their diverse varieties of resources is what wars are fought over.

Thus, if Americans do not seek to solidify their dominance at every moment, their dominance will be taken from them at some point; of this we can be sure. We _must_ have solidarity. It is not an enabler of evil - rather, it protects us from the evils that others might inflict upon us. Because that's how the world works. We fight over resources.

[dragonwriter]

> You claim that having solidarity with your nation, family, corporation, etc. is an enabler of evil.

No, I claim that refusing to ackniwledge and criticize evil by members of your family, nation, corporation, etc. around outsiders is an enabler of evil. Solidarity doesn't require that.

[coldtea]

>Americans are no less prone to this than others

No, they tend to think that their farts don't smell -- and that being pro-China as a Chinese is somehow worse than being pro-US as an American.

[dragonwriter]

> No, they tend to think that their farts don't smell

Some of them might, plenty of them—like Chan—don't believe anyone should criticize America where outsiders can see (of course, it's hard to tell those attitudes apart in either country, since the outward expression of the latter is also a convenient cover for the former.)