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The problem is that this independence movement is not really an independence movement. In the modern world, no political entity can truly be independent. All are dependent on their neighbors.

True independence became extinct when people stopped living subsistence agricultural lives.

So the Catalan issue is more about how the EU is structured and whether nation states are the appropriate level of division for the different territories in the EU.

Even outside the EU, nation states like Ukraine cannot be independent because they have too much dependency on Russia, the USA, China, Turkey and so on.

Sovereignty is another question, but confusing it with independence is wrong.