[taheca]

Those of us who grew up in less desirable environments (where they have real winter) are perfectly content with living out farther, and commuting in on the BART.

I personally live out by the Delta surrounded by fresh air, fresh fruit, and nice people (we have a strong community and frequently see people we know out and about, it's great). My commute into SF is about 90 min one way, and it is the easiest, least stressful commute I have had in my life.

[alkonaut]

I hope you work during your commute so you don't have to be away from family for 3 + 8 (Or more) hours. That means basically working the whole day all week, seeing your family only on weekends. I can't imagine what kind of comp someone would want for that (effectively permanent 55 hour weeks).

[taheca]

Easy to make a statement like this.

My wife has never worked because she did not have a career established when we decided to have kids. Allowing her to stay home is one of my proudest accomplishments (and it has done wonders for our kids).

I am home every night to spend a few hours with my kids, and I read to them every night before bed.

I spend all day on the weekends with them.

Sure I would love a shorter commute, as I said, I am in a non technical, and not in as high demand profession as many on here.

This is what a regular person goes through Hackernews. Keep that in consideration the next time you feel like complaining.

[alkonaut]

I don't mean to say you are making poor choices, I meant to say I hope you are well compensated for it. And it saddens me that we still have to be making this (11-12h workday) as a perhaps rational choice. It's a failure in infrastructure, city planning, labor laws, ... People fought really hard to get to 5 day/40h work weeks. Seems we lost a bit of momentum after that.

[Johnny555]

With 3 hours/day spent commuting plus a full day of work, when do you have time to see your neighbors?

I live in a Peninsula community with a 10 minute bike ride to work and that is the easiest least stressful commute I've had in my life.

[taheca]

I see my neighbors on the weekend. My wife, who stays at home with our kids, sees them all the time.

I'd love a 10 min bike ride commute, but my career is non technical therefore I don't have the same amount of opportunities as others on here may.

No complaints out of me though. My commute may be long, but my life is rich (and I am not talking about money).