[lucas_maximus83]

Ronald Reagan used the same campaign slogan in the 80s get a fucking grip. It is a short memorable slogan and it is simply good marketing.

Hitler was a vegetarian and liked dogs. According to your logic that makes you a nazi.

Also you probably don't remember, but everyone called George W Bush a nazi when he was elected. It is complete fucking bullshit and tbh I think it is pretty disgusting to demean the real meaning of things like racism, fascism etc when you clearly don't understand what that really means or the implications.

[odammit]

People called Obama one too.

I think the difference is the subtle embrace of white supremacy via the inability to dismiss or criticize those “good people” on both sides.

[lucas_maximus83]

Growing up as a kid in the late 80s and 90s the whole message from society was "Racism and Sexism is bad, treat everyone equally". Now the message is "If you are a white person you should accept being treated like a second class citizen".

This is the thing that has led to a growing white supremacy movement, even Jared Taylor (a prominent white supremacist in the US) has said so "They are driving them [white men] into our arms".

Ridiculous comments like yours saying that Trump is dog whistling to the alt-right when he said there "was violence on both" sides is again bullshit (there has been clashes between the far right and the far left in the US months before that statement) as what he said was more or less accurate.

Also why would he subtly dog whistle? White supremacy movements in the USA are tiny (in the few thousands), there aren't any votes in it. It simply doesn't make any sense from a campaign standpoint.

[_Tev]

> Now the message is "If you are a white person you should accept being treated like a second class citizen"

> Ridiculous comments like yours

I like the irony.

Frankly, from outsiders perspective, both sides seem ridiculous and hypersensitive. Except one side keeps pushing tax cuts for the rich and the other tries to implement some of things we in Europe consider standard.

But neither side is good at convincing anyone. Or even good at seeming at least a little reasonable in these discussions.

[lucas_maximus83]

> I like the irony.

In my home country in the BBC there was a woman pretty much saying that White British people are racist.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-41148872/sacked-model-all-wh...

This is one example but I been seeing this shit turn up on social media for the last 2 years. It could be cognitive bias, or I am noticing it more. But it is definitely there.

> Except one side keeps pushing tax cuts for the rich and the other tries to implement some of things we in Europe consider standard.

Except as someone that lives in Europe (I lived in Spain, the UK and Germany) most of the things that are standard in Europe don't work. The NHS has botch the treatment of my right shoulder and while I am not disabled, I now have a permanent weakness in my right side of my body.

In Spain there is massive unemployment and the country economy is permanently crashed (I lived in La Linea and the unemployment rate was 48%). Regular utilities like rubbish disposal stopped for 2 or 3 months because there was no money to pay the bin men (Garbage man for those in the US).

"Tax cuts for the rich". LOL. You know if you tax the rich too highly they basically leave the country or they find a loophole round it. That is why there is are measures like an affective tax rate. In the UK where they keep on tightening up tax laws most of the large companies are in Ireland or off shore in one of the crown dependencies such as Isle of Man, Jersey, Guernsey, Gibraltar etc. I paid more tax than Starbucks last year and I run a small hosting company. So I get fucked by tax rate increases for businesses and individuals because I just about fit into that bracket of the so called rich.

Also a lot of these tax the rich laws never take into account where you live. I used to live in Manchester in the UK and I was earning £30,000 and I lived very comfortably. If I lived in London I would barely be able to afford the rent.

[odammit]

He’s not subtle at all. It’s pretty obvious he doesn’t like non-whites. Or at least prefers to judge them if you want to wear kid gloves.

He tried to skate by not criticizing the Charlottesville nazis/“protectors” of southern heritage/whatever they want to call themselves when he’s pretty quick to criticize any nonwhite race that commits violence or a crime.

Sources: the passage of time cross referenced with the garbage that tumbles out of his mouth and/or thumbs.