[jack9]

Techdirt is a self-proclaimed rumor mill. Taking a particular viewpoint and expounding on it endlessly as proper context, leaves a lot of telltale quips like how "clueless" actors are being. Postmortems years later consistently show a misunderstanding of what the goals were and why the actions seemed misdirected. The DoJ almost always has a strategy. With the litany of secret processes the US Government navigates, there's no reason to think that they are acting "crazy" when we know there is a lack of information about what is possible.

[gumby]

> Techdirt is a self-proclaimed rumor mill.

Really? I've been reading it pretty regularly since the year it started (20 years ago) and wouldn't characterize it that way at all. One of the authors is quite snarky, true, but Masnick, the founder, isn't.

> The DoJ almost always has a strategy. With the litany of secret processes the US Government navigates, there's no reason to think that they are acting "crazy" when we know there is a lack of information about what is possible.

(This is independent of my comment about Techdirt). The DoJ is an institution constituted of humans and is capable of the same rationalities, irrationalities, and prejudices as any other organization. Looking over the last 120 years (since 1900) it's had highs to be proud of and lows to be ashamed of.

[jack9]

> I've been reading it pretty regularly since the year it started (20 years ago) and wouldn't characterize it that way at all.

My account was purged sometime in the last 10 years, so whatever.

Here's Mike Masnick responding to me... https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20050809/2227209.shtml?thr...

[pigscantfly]

What possible justification is there for submitting an in-progress legal document besides a mistake?

[jack9]

I can think of 3 without any knowledge of a specific case. Potential Delay (in clarifying this matter against the case at large), Proof of Effort, FISA routinely allows for incomplete filings and go forward anyway. They aren't the only court to do this. Pope's publicity might help squash this, but it's up to a judge to allow it or not. After the information is garnered, an appeal court can overturn it and nobody can undo the discovery. Any lawyer, can probably come up with more. I'm not explaining every obvious tactic. My advice is to get familiar with how far the US intelligence community has fallen out of jurisprudence. Good Luck.

[Jesus_Jones]

your comments above sound reasonable, but your characterization of tech dirt as a rumor site is wrong in my opinion. They consistently find cases of government overreach and attempts to skirt the law. If anything, they'd be supportive of your comment above "My advice is to get familiar with how far the US intelligence community has fallen out of jurisprudence."

[jack9]

> https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20050809/2227209.shtml?thr...

Mike Masnick had an interesting response.

[testvox]

How does that explain the strange behavior of submitting a document in such a state though? Couldn't they have achieved any of those goals by submitting the document without the annotations?

[Natsu]

Subpoenas are quashed, not squashed, but maybe your phone did that one.