[throwa34943way]

> Because we have too many other tools we also need.

Yes, but secure messaging is a well understood domain I suppose so it's the kind of app that is simple(not easy) to write and most tools compete on UX. A lot of tools on the list at the end have complex domains that are not that well understood by stock developers, or they might require a lot of R&D or actually talking to teams that have a problem to solve.

Furthermore it is extremely difficult to market a lot of these tools to corporations. IM? it's fairly easy.

The situation with secure messaging apps today isn't so different than social networks in the 2000's. It's a formula and it's easier to raise capital on that formula at the moment.

[vxNsr]

I would think that at least half of the domains mentioned are being used in some way by developers. So it's entirely possible to dogfood them.

Some examples I know I've used: PMS, Wiki, Calendar, VFM. I'd love a good group password vault, so far I've come up empty for something open source...

[kcmastrpc]

https://bitwarden.com

self-hosted / free / open-source password vault. extensions for every major browser out there (edge / ff 57)

[vxNsr]

Thanks! I'm looking into this. Never heard of these guys

[djrogers]

> extensions for every major browser out there (edge / ff 57)

Can't really say that if the stock browser on macOS isn't supported...

[kcmastrpc]

you're right. https://github.com/bitwarden/browser/issues/17