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by lordnacho 3160 days ago
> The "logic" of the system is NOT transparent nor generally known to native speakers.

Totally true, you often find people wondering what exactly the pattern is. A good language teacher will tell you though.

> A Scandinavist language reform movement tried to get the 20-based forms replaced by 10-based like Norwegian and Swedish have. With absolutely no success.

If this is a real movement, they need better PR. I've never heard anyone make this case. What's the point anyway?

Interestingly if you look at French, there's a similar thing with the numbers between French French and Swiss French. Soixante-dix vs septante, and similar for 80 and 90.

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I've had Danes give me the wrong total in a shop in English since they're used to reading the numbers backwards. I've done the same with my phone number -- I practised saying it in Danish so much, I forgot whether it was 56 or 65. Now I only ever say it in English.

I was very pleased at a concert when the barman said "niti fem" -- was this the reform I'd heard about, from reading this page? No, said my friend, it's just my spoken Danish is so bad the barman thought I was Swedish, and tried to be nice.

I've lived here for two years, and I still can't reliably distinguish between "fem og tres" and "fem halv tres".

>What's the point anyway?

Well it would be easier for learners to pick up for one, but I actually think the system is annoying, even as a native speaker. When someone tells me a phone number or similar, I will often ask them to read out the digits one by one because writing down the numbers can be difficult with the alternating order.

That's another weird thing. You CAN read out a number as 8 individual digits, but most Danes will give you 4 two-digit numbers. It's almost a shibboleth, like that movie where the non-native German speaker uses his pointing finger instead of his thumb to count "one".
I had a teacher, who, when enumerating, say, three points in his address of the class, used his thumb all three times.