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> I would love to get away from Android, but this is helping as much as Ubuntu on Windows is helping to get away from Windows.

I'm not sure how much this helps, I'm just replying to the idea that we "Android already IS linux". That is technically true, but not practically true. I also don't want Debian to run on top of the android kernel, but I want to use Debian's kernel. The android one is pretty neutered and crappy.

And yes, it is half-assed linux precisely because it's intentionally not compatible with desktop-like environments. Android has different goals than I want out of a phone, and that's perfectly fine, but that doesn't mean I have to be happy with Android as my only option (excluding IOS as that is a different beast altogether).

Just because you are OK with it doesn't mean that I have to be, and every step further we take from Android, the better, IMO.