[slavik81]

Why stop expectations for self-study at the programming part of the degree program? Math textbooks are available from any library. Rather than continuing mathematics from where high school left off, we could skip past the beginner stuff. The students who really care about computer science will have already learned the basics of discrete math, linear algebra and theory of computation.

[fpig]

Where did you get the idea that I said we should skip anything or that there should be "expectations" for self-study?

I have an issue with someone dismissing thousands of hours of invested effort as "having an opportunity". And the same is of course true for someone who went to the library and learned first year math.

[slavik81]

My apologies. I misunderstood you.