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You've got me there. I've only been to Seattle once and was promptly exposed to the lively harbour area as that's where we arrived by ferry from Victoria. I mean, there's a ferris wheel! And it was night so it was all lit up. Toronto has some nice features, for sure... maybe it was only the difference.

The Gardiner Expressway is a notorious design flaw with criticisms spanning decades -- people just rely on it too much now to change it. Though it's now crumbling and needs repair, there are some propositions for beautifying that area.

The rail lines have been there for a very long time, though in different spirit, maybe.

This whole conversation has reminded me I haven't spent much time down around certain parts of the waterfront in a long time. The expressway is a major psychological block for a lot of people. It makes it seem so far away. In seattle it felt like a short walk from halfway up downtown because of the features all along the walk. Walking beneath the Gardiner here is not a thrilling experience for a downtown. That's one difference I can note for sure, if we're to compare properly comparative regions of the cities.