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Yes, capital is still king. However, I would say that Zuckerberg (for example) did achieve a lot without selling his product for capital. That is pretty magical.

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> ...without selling his product for capital...

Maybe I'm missing what you mean somewhere in there, but facebook raised a lot of capital through investment rounds and an IPO.

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He retained control of the company (is what I meant).