[KekDemaga]

Certainly 10 specific cases would be an easy find right? Seriously go look. You can't find them. Studies like this claim cases like "well if we found this cancer earlier" but I'm looking for "he couldn't afford this drug so he died". Should be millions of them according to the rhetoric.

[PhasmaFelis]

> Studies like this claim cases like "well if we found this cancer earlier" but I'm looking for "he couldn't afford this drug so he died".

Why do you think that first group doesn't matter?

You're hunting for cases where a person with an acute condition fell down and died on the spot because money-grubbing doctors callously refused to give them medicine. That doesn't usually happen in the US, because hospitals are required to administer emergency care without advance payment. That doesn't help the tens of thousands of people who have to choose between getting a checkup and paying the rent, or the checkup doc refers them to a specialist that costs $10,000, or they feel shitty after an accident but they know the bill for the emergency room visit will bankrupt them; so they gamble that it'll get better on its own, and by the time it's clear that it won't, it's too late for emergency care to save them.

[KekDemaga]

Because I'm responding to "Then why are people having to go without prescription medication they can't afford?"

[PhasmaFelis]

Just edited my response above.

[KekDemaga]

So according to your response they don't die from a doctor refusing to provide care as much as they die from fear of bankruptcy? Aren't they poor? So isn't it safe to assume they don't have tons of assets to lose when bankruptcy actually happens? (Also it doesn't even really work that way https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-01-17/the-myth-...)

[PhasmaFelis]

Once again, emergency services are required to see you without payment in advance. Treating an ongoing condition requires multiple visits to a doctor who is not going to see you if you don't pay. By the time a chronic condition gets bad enough to qualify as an emergency, it's often too late to treat.

...Did you read that article you linked to? It outright says "I do think medical bills contribute to or cause a significant number of bankruptcies."

[KekDemaga]

But I'm talking about deaths, I have yet to see even one case yet this is supposedly an epidemic. Sorry if I'm not convinced by statistical handwaving.