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by TruthSHIFT 3179 days ago
Somebody please reply to this. Both this comment and the above comment seem reasonable. I don't know what to believe!
2 comments

For me Worrying about "vulnerabilities in their virus detection method" seems unlikely.

We're talking about downloadable software here, not a cloud service like google. Once a hostile nation state has access to your binaries (as they would with an installed product like A-V) they can just fuzz the A-V detection method to find bypasses.

Heck that's what pentesters and red teamers do on a regular basis, A-V bypass is a common thing in that world, so if people at that level can do it you can bet that nation state actors can do it.

Yeah, when I worked at Malwarebytes we did not really care about this issue. If people are doing to download it they are going to reverse engineer it.

We also did third party security audits on a regular basis, but still wouldn't be comfortable allowing that to be done with other countries. Purely my own opinion here, but my concern wouldn't be a security one so much as an intellectual property one- it's pretty well known that other governments (China, Russia) have strong links to their commercial sectors and little regard for IP protection.

I believe the latter post (obfuscating the method of detection) over incompetence.

Don't forget that nation states also produce malware (Recall Stuxnet?) [0] and evading detection is substantially easier when you know exactly what to avoid doing.

[0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet

Evading detection is easy if you have the slightest clue of what you're doing. Antivirus evasion simply isn't difficult enough for this to be a reasonable explanation.