[AndrewCHM]

Google's is similarly excessive https://i.imgur.com/fWvV7R4.png

Though I get the feeling google's approach of trying to desensitize me (emailing me about how great I am for traveling to mcdonalds like a slob, and gamifying my use of google maps, for example) instead of shamefully hiding it, is a fair bit worse

[Klathmon]

Wait so google's approach of explicitly showing you the information they gather is worse than hiding the information they gather?

[MildlySerious]

I wouldn't say worse per se, but it is bad in its own right for the reason the parent comment stated.

If it's "normal" to track every step and shove it in your face, surely you must be paranoid to not let them do at least some of that stuff.

I'm not saying there's no use for the data, and the services provided. It's just the opt-out nature of invading my privacy that I personally don't approve of.

[pc86]

I think he means the end result is worse. By being constantly shown the information you get desensitized to it. After years of that, you're much less likely to oppose this type of tracking than you would be had you never heard about it.

[zeratax]

I don't feel like they explicitly tell you. Seems to be more the tip of the ice berg to me.

[ohgodmorecow]

You can easily turn off this feature. But it's forced on Oxygen.

[482794793792894]

That doesn't really make a difference. Opt-out is essentially the same as just forcing it. The vast majority of users will never even know that they could be opting out.

[drdaeman]

I believe it's not opt-out.

IIRC, you're properly asked, the first time you try to do something, whenever you want to enable relevant tracking - e.g. share location history (e.g. when trying to set up "show my location"), or save voice data on Google servers (e.g. when setting up voice unlocking), etc etc.

I'm not exactly sure about app history and in-app search, though - just honestly don't remember about it. But it could be that user is actually asked at account setup time.

Point is, for many things Google actually properly asks for permission. Guess, it works for them, because timing's relevant. (They probably have ton of invisible tracking as well.)

[ForHackernews]

Is that true? You can turn off your ability to see your activity history in Google, but does it actually delete (or not send?) any data from Google's servers?

[remir]

You should take a look at this post from Android Police: http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/10/10/google-nerfing-home-...

Apparently there's a feature in the Google Home Mini that allows you to long press on the speaker to bypass the hot word detection ("Ok/hey Google"). Apparently there was a bug on this feature and random sounds could activate the listening of the Home, so it was recording data all day long.