[tiggybear]

Don't forget about the entitlements of the business owners. Many, many, many believe they are entitled to highly skilled and highly educated workers without paying them enough to afford the shittiest house/condo within an unreasonable commute to the office.

So at some point it isn't the workers that are being unreasonable. And I'm really curious what you think that point is? What defines who is being unreasonable among the business owner or worker? Or is that just dictated by which socioeconomic class you fall into?

[marcosdumay]

Before landing my first job out of college I had to refuse quite a few offers because I would effectively have to pay to work on them. And that was in a growing economy in a much more young-accepting climate, besides, rent was cheaper by the time.

The way you phrased it, it sounds entitled. But I guess the people downvoting your comment have no idea what it is to enter the workforce nowadays.

[kidmenot]

Asshole entrepreneurs are one of the other factors I was talking about. They tend to make it very hard for young people to enter the job market (the famous 5+ years of experience required).

It's a bit of self-entitlement on the part of the prospective employees, and a bit of self-entitlement on the part of the entrepreneurs. The latter are rightfully mad at the government, and since they're in it for the money, they try to save as much money as they can. I'm not condoning these practices, I'm just saying that, when everything you earn from January to June goes in taxes, I can understand them trying everything they can.